WAGO or KNX?

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Hi,


I am gonna build a new house (120m2, 1 floor, 5 rooms) and now wondering what home automation system I will put in it.
I am automation engineer and I have lots of experience using Beckhoff, Siemens and Omron.
Specifications for home automation system:
* Lighting: Dimmable led lights. Control via DALI. Control system must have been able to change scenes according to timetable. Example: at home in the morning.
* Electricity sockets: Controllable via system.
* Away / Home / Vacation / Night modes
* Air ventilation and Heating control: Speed control for air ventilation system. Temperature drop when Vacation mode activated.
* HMI: web HMI or Android app.


Maybe later:
* Alarm system
* Alexa voice control




I have narrowed my options to two:


OPTION 1: WAGO PLC
I choose WAGO over to Beckhoff because WAGO is cheaper and DALI configurator seems simple to use.
Parts:
WAGO PFC100 starter kit + DALI module + DI / DO modules.
Dali power source
All push buttons (24V) wired to PLC.
Electricity sockets are controlled by PLC output via relays.
Pros:
+ Kind of easy to program. I dont have experience to program DALI to codesys but I dont think this is a problem at all.
+ Maybe little bit cheaper solution than KNX.
+ Web HMI easy to program.
+ Buttons / switches are cheap.
+ MQTT support for future add-ons. (Alexa voice command and MQTT sensors)


Cons:
- Wiring. Every cable needs to be connected to PLC. (This can be avoided by using Enocean ??)
- Buttons / switches are not good as KNX buttons / switches.
- Worst-case scenario. Everything is controlled by PLC. What if PLC is broken ??


OPTION 2: KNX
KNX seems to be a popular choice for home automation. I already took that KNX eCampus course to see what kind of system that is.
It seems to be a bit odd and restricted system. If I choose KNX then I need some help for KNX designing and programming.
Parts.
KNX buttons / switches
DALI gateway
Relay actuator
KNX power source
Ip interface
What else ??


Pros:
+ Reliable system. Decentralized system.
+ Wiring more simple
+ Better buttons / switches


Cons:
- More expensive?
- No programming experience.
- Visualization?


Has anyone any toughs about these options ??
Do you think that KNX system can be programmed by novice?
 
Hi,

why not both? WAGO PLC with 646-Card is a very good combination.

KNX-switches allows to reduce wiring and you'll need less IO-cards and get more options.

ETS light will support 20 Devices - switches, motion dectors and so on.

Each 646-card supports 256 KNX communication objects and can be handled by seperate projects - so if want do that ;)
 
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That option could be best solution, thanks. It will give me best parts of both sides.
First I need to get some KNX devices so that I can start to learn how to program/configure those.
I read that Wago KNX starter kit manual quickly and I think that I got it how to change data between KNX and PLC.
 
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