TIA TIA Portal for Begginer

[ravitejagali]

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Hallo All,

I am actually new to PLC Programming, I am actually learning it by LOGO v8, I know basics. I had an job interview where they are working on TIA Portal. How can I learn TIA Portal from basic level? Thanks in advance.

 

[oliver.tonn]

If you want to do it on your own a good book (e.g. books from Hans Berger which are available in english or books from MHJ with a simulator, but I don't know, if they are available in english) and the help of this forum. Or take a course, but that costs quite some money.

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Hi Oliver,
Thanks for your time and help. I got a book titled '[FONT=Amazon Ember, Arial, sans-serif]Automating with STEP 7 in STL and SCL: SIMATIC S7-300/400 Programmable Controllers' does this book helps for beginner? [/FONT]

 

[Betriebselektriker28]

I think this book is about Programming with "Simatic Manager" the predecessor of TIA.

There are quite some differences between these programs.

 

[oliver.tonn]

I'm afraid, but no. This book is, as far as on the cover doesn't stands something about TIA, for S7 clasic and also is only for the 300/400 CPUs. With TIA you can create programs for S7-1500, S7-1200 and the 300/400 CPUs. And this book is also only teaching 2 languages, LAD, FBD and Graph is missing.

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Hi.. Could you please suggest me some book.. I even don't have hardware is it possible to learning by simulation??

 

[ravitejagali]

Hi Oliver, Again Thanks for suggestion. Should I need to start with S7 300/400 and then s7 100/1500? am I rite? I am really bit confused, there are many types of programming techniques like: STL,LAD, FBD, SCL, CFC. How should I select which is best for which application? Many thanks in advance and for your time and consideration.

Gali

 

[oliver.tonn]

Where you should start depends on you. TIA works with the 300 and 400 CPU, but they weren't originally designed for TIA, which the 1500 and 1200 are, so there might be some restrictions (I'm no big Siemens expert). As long as you don't plan to use the 300/400 CPUs you can leave them aside at the beginning. The question about which programming language you should use is not so easy to answer. Some swear, that IL is still the best language. IL works only on the 1500 CPU (Beside the 300/400), but it isn't designed for it (e.g. hardware registers are missing and must be emulated by TIA). The companies I was working for during the last years used SCL for the complex parts of the software and then FBD to connect the parts logicaly. LAD on the other hand, I would say, is mostly used by people with a more electrical background, because it looks more like a circuit diagram.

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omg thank you very much Mr. Oliver. It is really valuable information. Thanks a lot. One more question like logo v8 software (we get free).. I will start learning now with S7 1200 and then 1500, I don't have hardware can I practise it by any simulation.? and I tried to install free simantic manger, some thing went wrong and couldn't able to figure it out (I'm using Windows 10 OS)

 

[oliver.tonn]

The Siematic Manager is what we call Step 7 clasic and no TIA and at the moment it don't work under Win 10. You can download the TIA demo from Siemens, but should install it on a virtuell machine, so you can reset it to a state before the installation. In TIA there is PLCsim with which you can simulate your programm (with some restrictions).
You can also take a look at MHJ products, they also have some simulation solutions for TIA.

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