Help for an old Bosch plc

[albaloops]

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Hi all engineers
I have one machine from Bosch Packaging Line Technology, made in 2007
The exact model of the device : Bosch SEV 2510

Bosch CPU is used in this device, and it is connected with a computer with Windows CE operating system.
Unfortunately, the CPU battery was empty and the set parameters were lost. Now the technician's password to set the parameters is lost.
Does anyone know a way to create or find the password for this device

Machine manual :

https://ppnfiles.s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/22835-0070-1667864928135.pdf

Wiring :

https://ppnfiles.s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/22835-0070-1667864859760.pdf

https://control.com/forums/threads/help-for-an-old-bosch-plc.53649/

https://www.processplant.com/item.php?id=22835

 

[albaloops]

Photo

 

[DeltaMikeAir]

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Have you already asked Bosch? Is the machine originally from Ampack Ammann?


OMG

 

[albaloops]

My device is made in 2007.
I tried to raise the issue with Bosch's after-sales service department.
But because the license of this device was sold to another company, they were not able to help me.
And the licensed company also supports its own new device.
My device is in good condition. And only because of the faulty plc battery, the parameters and password are lost.

In relation to the specified image.
I tried to spy data between plc and hmi. and try to recover the password.
Unfortunately, I did not succeed

 

[DeltaMikeAir]

But because the license of this device was sold to another company

And what does the other company say?

 

[albaloops]

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rotzingergroup company only recommends buying a new device due to the expiration of the after-sales service period.
My device is really excellent both mechanically and electrically.
Do you know anyone from the previous company Bocsh Packaging Technology to offer me a solution.

Take a look at one of my attempts to find the correct password

 

[DeltaMikeAir]

The problem, as always, is that nobody has thought about data backups. This only happens when it's too late, as in this case. I do not download the ZIP file for security reasons. Unfortunately, I can't help you any further. I know some people from Ampack Ammann, do you have a photo of the nameplate of the machine? Was it built in Königsbrunn?

 

[albaloops]

Bosch company made this device in 2007, but it really used old technology. A very old card was needed for backup, which is not available to anyone.

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Tomorrow, I will send a photo of the device's nameplate.
Am hoping someone can help me ?

 

[DeltaMikeAir]

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Where is the plant located?

 

[albaloops]

The factory is located in Yazd, Iran.
The production line was designed by Bosch Packaging Technology and Ishida (Japan)

 

[DeltaMikeAir]

The factory is located in Yazd, Iran.

That could be one of the reasons why nobody really wants to help / can help.

The European Union has imposed various sanctions against Iran in connection with developments in Iran, in particular Iran's activities in the field of developing military nuclear technology, the serious human rights violations against Iranian citizens and its military support for Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine.

https://www.bafa.de/DE/Aussenwirtschaft/Ausfuhrkontrolle/Embargos/Iran/iran_node.html

 

[DCDCDC]

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What are the sanctions?​

Restrictive measures relating to human rights violations in Iran include:

• travel bans for individuals
• an asset freeze for individuals and entities
• a prohibition on making funds or economic resources available to those listed
• a ban on selling, supplying, transferring or exporting to Iran equipment that might be used for internal repression
• a ban on providing technical assistance, brokering services or financing to any person or body in Iran or for use in Iran (if they could be used in relation to internal repression)
• a ban on providing any telecommunications or internet monitoring or interception services to Iran

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions-against-iran/

 

[albaloops]

I am a simple citizen, I am very sorry for political issues.
Like all the people of the world, I only want peace, freedom and safe.
In the case of my device, it is used for the food industry.
Food and medicine have never been banned
My company's personnel are now out of work, and it's not fair. Please help me if there is a way for my device

 

[albaloops]

The problem, as always, is that nobody has thought about data backups. This only happens when it's too late, as in this case. I do not download the ZIP file for security reasons. Unfortunately, I can't help you any further. I know some people from Ampack Ammann, do you have a photo of the nameplate of the machine? Was it built in Königsbrunn?

I have sent a photo of the nameplate of the device.
Are your friends able to guide me?

 

[DeltaMikeAir]

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Are your friends able to guide me?

There is no point in asking them as they will not help for various reasons. I wish you all the best

 

[albaloops]

There is no point in asking them as they will not help for various reasons. I wish you all the best

Thank you for your time.

I'll keep trying, I'll post the result here later, maybe someone else will come across my problem in the future

I also wish you the best

 

[DCDCDC]

Wishing you the best and some luck.

 

[albaloops]

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friends .
Regarding my bosch packaging machine.
If you can do me a favor.
If you know someone who has worked with this plc model, ask if it is possible for me to find or recover the password ?
I don't want to step on the wrong path.
Only answer yes or no. Is there a way or is my attempt futile?

 

[Oberchefe]

The type is probably not
Bosch SEV 2510
but SVE 2510.

Bosch packaging was sold from Robert Bosch to an investor, have a look here:

Vertikale Verpackungsmaschinen (VFFS) » Syntegon

Vertikales Verpacken hat sich über Jahrzehnte als Standardprozess für viele Lebensmittel und Non-Food-Produkte etabliert.

www.syntegon.com

 

[albaloops]

The type is probably not
Bosch SEV 2510
but SVE 2510.

Bosch packaging was sold from Robert Bosch to an investor, have a look here:

Vertikale Verpackungsmaschinen (VFFS) » Syntegon

Vertikales Verpacken hat sich über Jahrzehnte als Standardprozess für viele Lebensmittel und Non-Food-Produkte etabliert.

www.syntegon.com

SVE is written on the catalog with the device and the name of the device plate is SVE.
Unfortunately, there is no explanation in the guide for when the device password is lost